If you thought the insults, accusations and attacks would stop
after Monday night's feisty Democratic debate in Myrtle Beach,
S.C.--well, you were wrong.
Yesterday, Hillary Clinton reiterated her debate-night swipes
at Obama on a host of issues, including Ronald Reagan, Iraq and health
care. The goal: to undermine Obama's greatest strength--the perception
that he's not a typical politician--by painting him as a timid,
flip-flopping panderer (i.e., a typical politician). In response, the
Obama camp said Clinton and her husband are "willing to say anything,
distort anything, and twist anything in order to win an election." I am
rubber, you are glue...
Undeterred, Clinton is out today with a radio ad in South Carolina
pounding Obama again for noting that the "Republicans were the party of
ideas for a pretty long chunk of time there over the last 10, 15
years,” and Obama goes negative for the first time--on bankruptcy, NAFTA and economic stimulus--in talking points circulated to surrogates.
With
no end to the nastiness in sight, we here at Stumper headquarters
planned to spend the morning playing referee--not just reporting the
back-and-forth without comment, but providing context and
clarifications that would show readers when the candidates were right
and when they were wrong.
But our brilliant partners at FactCheck.org beat us to the punch.
Here, then, is Viveca Novak's valuable score sheet. It's a much-needed reality check in this increasingly bitter battle for the Democratic nomination.
Summary
In one of the liveliest
debates of the 2008 presidential campaign, the three top Democrats
slugged it out in Myrtle Beach, S.C. We note some low blows:
Clinton
falsely accused Obama of saying he "really liked the ideas of the
Republicans" including private Social Security accounts and deficit
spending. Not true. The entire 49-minute interview to which she refers
contains no endorsement of private Social Security accounts or deficit
spending, and Obama specifically scorned GOP calls for tax cuts.
Obama
falsely denied endorsing single-payer government health insurance when
he first ran for the Senate, saying, "I never said that we should try
to go ahead and get single-payer." But in fact he gave a speech in 2003
saying, "I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer health care
program."
Edwards misleadingly claimed, "I was the
one who beat John McCain" in a recent CNN poll. The problem is that
there is a more recent CNN poll, one that shows either Clinton or Obama
beating McCain and doesn't include Edwards.
Analysis
Just
three Democratic candidates took part in the scorching debate
cosponsored by CNN and the Congressional Black Caucus in Myrtle Beach,
S.C.: Hillary Clinton, Barack Obama and John Edwards. It was the
next-to-last such encounter scheduled for the Democrats prior to the
Feb. 5 "Super Duper Tuesday" showdown when more than 20 states hold
nominating contests. South Carolina Democrats go to the polls Saturday.
I Love the '80s!
Clinton
attacked Obama for supposedly supporting Republican ideas, which she
said included federal deficits and "privatizing" Social Security:
Clinton:
[He] has said in the last week that he really liked the ideas of the
Republicans over the last 10 to 15 years, and we can give you the exact
quote. ... They were ideas like privatizing Social Security, like
moving back from a balanced budget and a surplus to deficit and debt.
Obama pushed back, saying he had never endorsed such notions:
Clinton: [You] talked about the Republicans having ideas over the last 10 to 15 years.
Obama: I didn't say they were good ones.
Clinton: Well, you can read the context of it.
Obama: Well, I didn't say they were good ones. ...
Clinton: It certainly came across in the way that it was presented...
We
can't speak to how things "came across" to Clinton, but we've listened
to the entire interview and to our ears, it's just flatly false that
Obama said he "really liked the ideas of the Republicans." Clinton is
referring to what Obama told the editorial board of the Reno Gazette-Journal. A video is available on the Internet.
Here's what Obama actually said in the portion to which Clinton referred:
Obama (Jan. 14, 2008): The
Republican approach has played itself out. I think it's fair to say
that the Republicans were the party of ideas for a pretty long chunk of
time there over the last 10, 15 years, in the sense that they were
challenging conventional wisdom. Now, you've heard it all before. You
look at the economic policies when they're being debated among the
presidential candidates, it's all tax cuts. Well, we know, we've done
that; we've tried it. That's not really going to solve our energy
problems, for example.
There's a difference between
praising someone for having ideas and praising the idea itself. Obama
is doing the former – and just as clearly not doing the latter. He says
the GOP approach has "played itself out," for example.
It's
also false to imply – as Clinton did – that Obama endorsed Republican
proposals to set up private Social Security accounts or that he praised
deficit spending. We listened to the entire 49-minute interview, and
Obama said no such thing.
Read the rest here.